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    Supreme Court rules Maine tuition program violates First Amendment for excluding religious schools
    The Supreme Court ruled in the case of Carson v. Makin

    Ronn Blitzer
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    The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 Tuesday that a Maine tuition assistance program violated the First Amendment's Free Exercise Clause for excluding religious schools from eligibility.

    The program provides tuition assistance for students without a local public school to attend private institutions – as long as the funding is not used for religious or "sectarian" teaching.

    "Maine’s ‘nonsectarian’ requirement for its otherwise generally available tuition assistance payments violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the court's opinion in the case of Carson v. Maykin. "Regardless of how the benefit and restriction are described, the program operates to identify and exclude otherwise eligible schools on the basis of their religious exercise."

    Roberts stated that with Maine providing the benefit of tuition assistance, they cannot condition those benefits in a way that "effectively penalizes the free exercise of religion."

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    Religious schools were allowed under the program before 1981, but then Maine adopted its "non-sectarian" requirement, citing the First Amendment. Roberts noted that this addition was made after Maine’s attorney general determined that funding private religious schools would violate the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause. The Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that a program where private citizens made the decision as to where the money was going would not violate the clause.

    The Supreme Court made that same determination on Tuesday.

    "[A] neutral benefit program in which public funds flow to religious organizations through the independent choices of private benefit recipients does not offend the Establishment Clause," Roberts wrote.

    A lower court ruling in Maine's favor had said that the real benefit was not tuition assistance, but the provision of the "rough equivalent of the public school education that Maine may permissible require to be secular."

    Roberts rejected that argument, noting that "the statute does not say anything like that."

    What the statute does say is that a school administrative unit that does not have its own high school "shall pay the tuition . . . at the public school or the approved private school of the parent’s choice at which the student is accepted."

    "The benefit is tuition at a public or private school, selected by the parent, with no suggestion that the ‘private school’ must somehow provide a ‘public’ education," Roberts wrote.

    In a dissenting opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer wrote that the majority is now requiring Maine to fund religious schools, and this runs afoul of the First Amendment. Roberts said in his majority opinion that this was "wrong," because "Maine chose to allow some parents to direct state tuition payments to private schools; that decision was not ‘forced upon’ it."

    Breyer also warned that this could lead to future problems.

    "This is a situation ripe for conflict, as it forces Maine into the position of evaluating the adequacy or appropriateness of the schools’ religiously inspired curriculum," Breyer wrote, adding that "Maine does not want this role," and that schools do not "want Maine in this role" either.

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    "By invalidating the nonsectarian requirement, the majority today subjects the State, the schools, and the people of Maine to social conflict of a kind that they, and the Religion Clauses, sought to prevent," Breyer wrote.

    In a separate dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor claimed that with this case, the Supreme Court "continues to dismantle the wall of separation between church and state that the Framers fought to build."

    Sotomayor pointed to other cases from recent years in which the Supreme Court had ruled that school vouchers or other state funding could go toward religious institutions, expressing "growing concern for where this Court will lead us next[.]"

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    In a separate dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor claimed that with this case, the Supreme Court "continues to dismantle the wall of separation between church and state that the Framers fought to build."

    I seem to recall somewhere recently where someone was saying that the "Framers" did not actually intend that.
    It's not enough to simply tolerate the 2nd Amendment as an antiquated inconvenience. Caring for the 2nd Amendment means fighting to restore long lost rights.

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    The Jefferson letter.

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    Nope. The separation you referred to is a modern concept.

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    Yeah, they've bastardized the language in the Jefferson letter to say the opposite of what it says. This ruling is a correction in the direction of the Framers' true intent.

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    Jefferson letter? Yep, I’m wrong.

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    Again, it's not publicly funded religious schools that are the problem - it's publicly funded schools that are the problem.
    Ephesians 2 : 8-9



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    Public school education here. I was trying to figure out if the voucher system comes into play. I don’t understand the ruling. Could someone break this down for me?

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    Jesus gets another win from SCOTUS today...

    Supreme Court Says High School Coach Can Pray on Field
    Court rules First Amendment protects public-school employee’s right to pray on football field after a game

    Former football coach Joe Kennedy said that he treated players fairly whether they joined him in prayer or not.

    By Jess Bravin
    June 27, 2022

    WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court, siding with a football coach who knelt in prayer at the 50-yard line, ruled 6-3 that a school district cannot bar him from publicly exercising his faith on the field after the game, continuing a line of decisions lowering the wall between church and state.

    Writing for the court, Justice Neil Gorsuch said coach Joe Kennedy’s prayers were private speech that couldn’t be construed as representing the school district and were protected by the First Amendment.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme...ne-11656339266

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    Hittin' dingers all over the yard!

    Somebody must have lost Epstein's black book.

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    All of us commoners must abide by separation of church and state. And yet the Supreme Court says a prayer before they open up session. What am I missing here?

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