Video-SCDNR Cat 1 WMA MISMANAGEMENT

[mudflat]

Killed my first greenhead in Carr Creek. Waded into Samworth to retrieve it. In the 80's 90's Samworth held plenty of mallards/ducks. I don't know the solution to the problem.

[Dog Man]

A management change in SCDNR management of these properties is the solution..

[Quackhead22]

A management change in SCDNR management of these properties is the solution..

You are way off base with that! Achi and his crew are doing the very best that they can with what he has! His transparency on the management of the properties is something that we have never seen. Now could some of the upper level management in Columbia use some help? Yes perhaps. But Achi is the man for the job. As a matter of fact there is a current opening on the UCWP for a Tech 2, the starting pay is $37k and that is the highest Tech 2 starting pay I have ever seen! With all of that said if this were 10 years ago I would agree with you but things have changed. I have spent the last 18 years of my life managing private lands. I have worked on several plantations in the Plantersville area and did an internship at Samworth when Jim Lee was in charge. I just recently switched over to working for an NGO. The difference between managing a private place and managing or working within a government agency or government like agency is night and day! Nothing happens with any haste and nothing happens without approvals from multiple sources. What Achi has been able to accomplish working in the environment that he is working in all while dealing with the government bs is nothing short of amazing! Thus he should be commended for his efforts and the efforts of his staff!


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[Dog Man]

You are absolutely CORRECT about the great job Achi has done at Santee Coastal Reserve. SCR is most probably the top WMA in the Atlantic flyway. In my 2 previous presentation I commended Achi and his staff for managing that property at its highest level.
This video presentation ONLY talks about Broad River,Bear Island,Santee Delta East,Santee Delta West and Samworth.

[Campbeller]

SC duck hunters are a sad bunch.

[mudflat]

Is Achi responsible for how SCR is hunted, both ducks and deer? Last time I was there you couldn't drive past the tractor shed, couldn't hunt the islands, camp ground had changed.
Who decides Santee West dates, if you can't kill a duck in 3 years, might as well allow deer/hog hunting more.

[trash2]

You should go jack off

[Calibogue]

You should go jack off

yep.....and man up and state your name if you're gonna call out SCDNR mgt, board, staff etc

[Dog Man]

My name is Smith Ragsdale. I own Rosebank Plantation on the PeeDee near Plantersville.
Now you man up.

[Dog Man]

My name is Smith Ragsdale. I own Rosebank Plantation in the upper Waccamaw Neck in Georgetown county.
Your turn to man up.

[SharkDave]

Passion.

[BOGSTER]

Couple things: harvest percentages have a major factor that everyone seems to overlook.

Hunters ability to kill. I know for a fact that often times a group of 4 comes with nary a shell left and 7 teal between em.
That affects percentages drastically.

Also - Nobody wants to talk about the fact that Santee National Wildlife Refuge has been stacked to the gills with “coastal” ducks for the last decade.
Tens of thousands of puddle ducks.
Not many are killing em due to hunting styles up here, but they have adapted to complete nocturnal feeding.

These thousands of birds sit in the refuge all day.
Get up at 6:30-7pm and fill the hunt club impoundments up.
At 4:30am they get up and fly back to the refuge to sit all day.

This is why you’re able to see 15-20k birds just in Cantey Bay alone.
Most folks don’t see the other units.

This has proven that corn is a stronger attractant than widgeon grass and chara.

[pluffmudder]

Straight from the NWR systems website: hunting is the main priority for the NWRs.

*Santee NWR: deer and varmints only

What a joke.

[sprigdog]

As an outsider who has been on 9 draw hunts behind the dikes I have the perfect solution.
Make it public land. Open it wide up to hunting Saturday Sunday and Wednesdays. No reservations.
No driving down dike roads. Want to hunt Murphy? Anchor boat on bank and walk over pulling a sneak boat. The Cape. Park in parking lot and walk in. Hunt wherever you like 3 days a week. It's your public land. Complete BS y'all have to wait 3-4 years for a 4 hour hunt, that apparently doesn't remotely live up to expectations.

[BOGSTER]

As an outsider who has been on 9 draw hunts behind the dikes I have the perfect solution.
Make it public land. Open it wide up to hunting Saturday Sunday and Wednesdays. No reservations.
No driving down dike roads. Want to hunt Murphy? Anchor boat on bank and walk over pulling a sneak boat. The Cape. Park in parking lot and walk in. Hunt wherever you like 3 days a week. It's your public land. Complete BS y'all have to wait 3-4 years for a 4 hour hunt, that apparently doesn't remotely live up to expectations.

I wholeheartedly agree.
Somehow we allowed the idea that hunting tidewater impoundments was a privilege that we should be so lucky to get to hunt.
Its retardation at its finest.

[drwilly]

As an outsider who has been on 9 draw hunts behind the dikes I have the perfect solution.
Make it public land. Open it wide up to hunting Saturday Sunday and Wednesdays. No reservations.
No driving down dike roads. Want to hunt Murphy? Anchor boat on bank and walk over pulling a sneak boat. The Cape. Park in parking lot and walk in. Hunt wherever you like 3 days a week. It's your public land. Complete BS y'all have to wait 3-4 years for a 4 hour hunt, that apparently doesn't remotely live up to expectations.

I’d add:
make it more restrictive for non residents. Limit number on each hunt. 1st come 1st serve. Maybe limit each hunter to a certain number of hunts per year. 6-10 sounds about right.

[BOGSTER]

I’d add:
make it more restrictive for non residents. Limit number on each hunt. 1st come 1st serve. Maybe limit each hunter to a certain number of hunts per year. 6-10 sounds about right.

There’s nothing wrong with eliminating OOS hunters all together.

A decade ago I proposed opening Bear Island and the Gun Club to September teal.
I was told by a prominent ACE Basin property manager “it’s a safety factor, there’s so many alligators in these fields, it’s just too dangerous.”

I stated that the largest alligators in the state were killed every year on Marion and Moultrie, and the state didn’t seem concerned. A motion was made to move on with the agenda.

[SanteeMarsh]

As a friend of a friend I’d love to explain coastal habitat call Tindall

[sprigdog]

I’d add:
make it more restrictive for non residents. Limit number on each hunt. 1st come 1st serve. Maybe limit each hunter to a certain number of hunts per year. 6-10 sounds about right.

Defeats the purpose of opening it up. Just go hunt it 3 days a week. Murphy is 5 miles long and 2.5 miles wide. Open it up. How crowded you think that place will be 3 days a week if you have to walk in over dike? Or even take a bike? Ain't gonna happen. Edit: you start expelling OOSers, you face the reciprocal in other state owned hunt spots. SC is the largest exporter of waterfowlers on the planet.

[drwilly]

Defeats the purpose of opening it up. Just go hunt it 3 days a week. Murphy is 5 miles long and 2.5 miles wide. Open it up. How crowded you think that place will be 3 days a week if you have to walk in over dike? Or even take a bike? Ain't gonna happen.

I hear ya. Is it all or nothing though? Get drawn every 5 years vs someone hunting it 3 days a week for 60 days? Making it harder may not be the best method. I think about my 80 year old Dad who used to could’ve and would’ve but not now. The memory just popped up on fb of 4 years ago at the cape w him. I’m hoping to get drawn next year and unfortunately that may be his last one.