Offset question on 1542 war eagle

[Eric J]

So i was able to trade my short shaft yami 40 for a long shaft. It has no tilt and trim. I have a pt130 that im gonna add and was thinking of adding the 4300 vance jacker to fine tune the height. Its going on a 1542 war eagle. Is it possible that after the 6 inch offset on the cmc and 3 inch on the vance, those 9 inches may be to much offset?

[willyworm]

Didn't you have a posting on Craigslist for that trade?

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[Eric J]

Didn't you have a posting on Craigslist for that trade?

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Yeah i did. Now im just trying to figure out some setup.

[willyworm]

If it's the posting I'm thinking it is, if you made the trade, you probably want to take the posting down.

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[Eric J]

If it's the posting I'm thinking it is, if you made the trade, you probably want to take the posting down.

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It should be down. I deleted it earlier today??? Not unless it didnt work.

[willyworm]

That you?

http://columbia.craigslist.org/bpo/5799165395.html

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[Eric J]

That you?

http://columbia.craigslist.org/bpo/5799165395.html

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That was me...just re-deleted it. Thanks for the heads up boss.

[willyworm]

As for your setback question, I'd say just bolt the stuff on and run the boat to see what happens. Unless you just find someone who has tried the same exact thing, you'll just have to trial and error it.

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[Eric J]

As for your setback question, I'd say just bolt the stuff on and run the boat to see what happens. Unless you just find someone who has tried the same exact thing, you'll just have to trial and error it.

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Ok thanks for your input. Is there such a thing as to much offset though that you have ever heard of?

[BRR]

9" setback is a bit much for a 1542.

[white quacker]

I've done it with 9" on a havoc. Just takes a lot of playing with the trim, wasn't for me but I wasn't trying to squeeze every mph out of the set up either. Ended up going a different route

[Phone Man]

542 war eagle with its flat bottom is going to run flat or bounce. There really isn't a toting the nose situation like other boats. I ran into that with mine and my little 25 Yamaha. I played with height and trim and found that it ran fastest straight line lifted high with less trim as the trim made it bounce but the height made it push straight. From playing with mine I think the flat bottom 542 benefitted more from height than trim

Id put that jack plate one it and put your manual trim in top hole. Run it and keep raising it up until you start blowing out or lose water pressure. Or slap the cmc on there as high as it will go and motor mounted as high as it will go as well and try it. I did that on willworms boat when I had it and it wasn't enough height, hence the reason he added that jack plate.

[Carolina]

I wish I could find the thread, but I came up empty agree a cursory search. There was a guy on Custom Gheenoe that designed and fabbed up a really slick hydraulic jack plate that he coupled with his CMC breakaway. The jack plate only added about 3/4" of setback. It was driven by a Lenco trim cylinder.

[Goin Coastal]

The transom on a war eagle is at such an angle it will take most of your trim to get the motor level with that much set back. Not really gaining anything. The CG of the boat will be so out of whack you will never get it to perform as you would like before it starts bouncing like a porn star doing reverse cowboy.

[JBK]

I had basically the same experience that phone had with my WE 1542 and my 3 cylinder 30. Just a cmc pt35 was good enough for me. I put a jack plate on with the cmc and it was just to unbalanced for me. It was faster, but there just wasn't enough free board when I was idling around by myself.

[Phone Man]

I wish I could find the thread, but I came up empty agree a cursory search. There was a guy on Custom Gheenoe that designed and fabbed up a really slick hydraulic jack plate that he coupled with his CMC breakaway. The jack plate only added about 3/4" of setback. It was driven by a Lenco trim cylinder.

Bobs makes a combo one but its 1700

[Phone Man]

Ive come to the conclusion with mine is do i want to go fast or do i want to have something thats useful. Ive hit 39 with mine but it blew out and wouldnt turn for hell. So i lowered mine down and decided 35 was plenty and 30-32 loaded was fine. I can get on plane in length of my boat and snatch it and turn on a dime. A 542 we is not a speed boat. Its made to beat the crap out of in the swamp and kill and catch shit. For that it does great. If you want a speed boat, sell that 542 and buy a edge/havoc fastcraft or similar. JMO. Ive owned or driven about all of tgem at some point

[willyworm]

The transom on a war eagle is at such an angle it will take most of your trim to get the motor level with that much set back.

Even if you bolt the motor directly to the transom that issue is still there. I wonder why the WE, Xpress, Triton, etc metal boat makers continue to make them with the transom angles assuming they are aware this issue exists. Many modern motors 40hp and up have power TnT but the user isn't able to utilize it is as designed because of the transom angle.

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[Eric J]

Has anyone messed with the transom wedges at all? I wonder is that would semi cure the angle issue with the we.