University of Texas removes Jefferson Davis statue

[Mergie Master]

University of Texas removes Jefferson Davis statue

http://news.yahoo.com/university-tex...162652629.html

A statue of Jefferson Davis was removed from its pedestal Sunday on the campus of the University of Texas at Austin, days after a court rejected an appeal from a Confederate heritage group.

Crews were seen removing the statue of the Confederate president from its place near the university's iconic clock tower.

Davis' statue will eventually be displayed in the Briscoe Center history museum on campus, which university officials said is a more appropriate place for it. The Briscoe Center has one of the nation's largest archives on slavery.

The statue has been a target of vandalism as well as criticism that it is a symbol of racism and discrimination. Confederate symbols nationwide are being re-considered following the recent mass shooting of members of a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

"This is an iconic moment," said Gregory Vincent, the university's vice president for diversity and community engagement, according to the Austin American-Statesman. "It really shows the power of student leadership."

A judge last week ruled against the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which sued to stop the university from moving it.

Statues of other Confederate figures — Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and Albert Sidney Johnston, and Confederate Postmaster General John H. Reagan — will remain in their places on campus.

University officials halted earlier plans to move the Davis statue after the Sons of Confederate Veterans asked a judge to stop them. The Confederate group compared the proposal to relocate the statue to the Islamic State group destroying artifacts in the Middle East.

But State District Judge Karin Crump ruled last week that Texas officials have the authority under state law to decide where the statue should stand.

[santee11]

Well we can get use to this happening. Christianity is the real target. The confederate stuff is just a diversion.

[SOUTHERN WOODS]

Remember to do your part and thank your politicians'. I'd vote against any incumbent running for reelection in the house or senate.

[Duck Tape]

I have about 50 co-sponsors of a Heritage Act referendum. Unfortunately we will need a few democrats.

[ecu1984]

Should have thought about that earlier.

[Duck Tape]

The families should have called for his head but they didn't. They did the right thing and South Carolina avoided a race war. Count your blessings.

Of course, you may actually have wanted a war. Who knows?

[santee11]

The families should have called for his head but they didn't. They did the right thing and South Carolina avoided a race war. Count your blessings.

Of course, you may actually have wanted a war. Who knows?

Avoided a race war? Really? I don't think it would have come to that, but I have learned that if someone wants a fight you may as well go ahead and give it to them. If folks are crazy enough to start a race war over something like that, maybe it needs to happen so we can get rid of the crazy folks.

[Duck Tape]

So let's see. A white guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the city where the Civil War began, where projects directly border rich white people, goes to the Mother AME church, kills blacks in a church including a black senator, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war. If not for the families forgiveness, Charleston would have burned.

[Sportin' Woodies]

By race war do you mean blacks rioting and burning people's property when they're away?

The reason you won't see a race war is because white people have a lot of guns and they know how to use them.

Props to the Emmanuel family members though. I think God actually DID speak to them.

[buckfarmer]

So let's see. A white guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the city where the Civil War began, where projects directly border rich white people, goes to the Mother AME church, kills blacks in a church including a black senator, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war. If not for the families forgiveness, Charleston would have burned.

Your logic is severely flawed as their forgiveness was not conditioned upon you (and the GA) circumventing the political process. There was no violence or riots (as you referenced in other cities) in the weeks between the atrocity and the GA emergency session. In fact, the only rioting was prompted by the announcement that there would be an emergency vote. You can't manufacture an issue, and then expect people to thank you for solving it.

[Sportin' Woodies]

Yes he can. And yes he does.

[ecu1984]

Your logic is severely flawed as their forgiveness was not conditioned upon you (and the GA) circumventing the political process. There was no violence or riots (as you referenced in other cities) in the weeks between the atrocity and the GA emergency session. In fact, the only rioting was prompted by the announcement that there would be an emergency vote. You can't manufacture an issue, and then expect people to thank you for solving it.

I actually have to agree with this cat for the first time ever. The families forgave the next day, before you took the flag down and saved us all from "war".
Nice spin though, I will give you that

[JayhawkLee]

So let's see. A white guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the city where the Civil War began, where projects directly border rich white people, goes to the Mother AME church, kills blacks in a church including a black senator, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war. If not for the families forgiveness, Charleston would have burned.

So let's see. A Black homosexual guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the site of a live television taping where his ex-co workers were attempting to make a living and kills whites on a deck including a innocent bystander, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war? If not for the families forgiveness, The greatest nation in the world would have burned.

I think we should ban the GAY flag, start riots to get free stuff and wipe out anything that has to do with gays. Maybe, just maybe someone can ask a bunch of guys on a website what the "replacement" flag should be. Yeah thats a good idea.

[Duckman#1]

So let's see. A white guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the city where the Civil War began, where projects directly border rich white people, goes to the Mother AME church, kills blacks in a church including a black senator, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war. If not for the families forgiveness, Charleston would have burned.

Sorry but it took a lot more than the families forgiveness to avoid that.

[2thDoc]

so let's see. A white guy with stated desire to start a race war goes to the city where the civil war began, where projects directly border rich white people, goes to the mother ame church, kills blacks in a church including a black senator, on the heals of rioting in other cities, cops assassinated, and you don't think it would have come to a race war. If not for the families forgiveness, charleston would have burned.

bull fucking shit

[Duck Tape]

bull fucking shit

Ok, Toof, what would have happened if the nine families called for retribution and spent the next few evenings stirring up emotions.

There are several people on here that act like they want a race war. Facebook has them stirred up, the national press, you name it.

SC was different not because we are that much different. It was because the families response set up an entirely different response.

[ecu1984]

Ok, Toof, what would have happened if the nine families called for retribution and spent the next few evenings stirring up emotions.

There are several people on here that act like they want a race war. Facebook has them stirred up, the national press, you name it.

SC was different not because we are that much different. It was because the families response set up an entirely different response.

Did the families ask for the flag to come down? No they did not. so stop using "them" in all this. They just simply talked about "forgiveness"
You career politicians suggested and called for it and only you and the Libs.
RINO

[Duck Tape]

Did the families ask for the flag to come down? No they did not. so stop using "them" in all this. They just simply talked about "forgiveness"
You career politicians suggested and called for it and only you and the Libs.
RINO

What an idiot. How can a state politician make a career out of $10,400 a year.

[ecu1984]

Ok, Toof, what would have happened if the nine families called for retribution and spent the next few evenings stirring up emotions.

There are several people on here that act like they want a race war. Facebook has them stirred up, the national press, you name it.

SC was different not because we are that much different. It was because the families response set up an entirely different response.

Now we have resorted to "what ifs"
Pathetic

[2thDoc]

Ok, Toof, what would have happened if the nine families called for retribution and spent the next few evenings stirring up emotions.

There are several people on here that act like they want a race war. Facebook has them stirred up, the national press, you name it.

SC was different not because we are that much different. It was because the families response set up an entirely different response.

Tell me what happened in our nation's recent history that might explain what you are talking about. I dont recall a "race war" recently. I do, however, recall a lot of crime in the black community. Are you saying the white people should start the war? I am so confused on what I am supposed to hate these days.

My point, DT, is that you are speculating and making excuses, de post facto. I am not surprised by politicians looking to justify their idiotic actions, but dont think for a minute that you just narrowly escaped a race war by taking the flag down.

I may have mentioned this before but, in my opinion, my disgust for the political actions of the state of SC has NOTHING to do with the flag (or a race war).