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    Got thinking about some repairs I need to get to work on and might be 'thinking too hard', but figured I'd take the chance of taking some chit and ask it anyway.

    I need to weld/re-weld some of the joints on the bush hog. Is it 'OK' to keep it connected to the tractor or would the arc amps damage any of the electrical controls? Etc?

    I'm thinking I need to separate the bush hog/attachment from the tractor so as to avoid any undue damage. Yes? No?

    I just never thought about the question before because each time my neighbor and I have rebuilt the body we've taken it over to the shop he runs so it was never an issue. These repairs don't warrant that kind of effort.

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    If you are worried about it, just unhook the battery.

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    If it is old tractor prior to 2000 I would think it would be ok. Anything newer unhook it. Biggest thing, does if have a computer running it? If so unhook it. If not you are good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampshooter View Post
    If it is old tractor prior to 2000 I would think it would be ok. Anything newer unhook it. Biggest thing, does if have a computer running it? If so unhook it. If not you are good to go.
    It's a '94 Kubota B2150, so there's no computer.

    I kept telling myself it should be fine, but since I figured I'd be running probably 100+ amps or so on the welder it might be more than some of the relays liked seeing. Just never thought about it before.

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    If you're welding on the implement and put the ground clamp on the implement, it shouldn't be a problem. As long as the tractor isn't in the circuit, it won't know you're welding.

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    Not trying to be smart but you really already answered your question. If it were me I would unhook it. Rather be safe than sorry.
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    Either drop the implement or disconnect a battery terminal, you took more time typing out this post than you could have spent by doing both options. I usually unhook the battery terminal on my truck when I fixed some exhaust leaks, it ain't a big deal. As long as you don't weld on the bush hog and ground the welder on the alternator or something you really shouldn't have to worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodieSC View Post
    It's a '94 Kubota B2150, so there's no computer.

    I kept telling myself it should be fine, but since I figured I'd be running probably 100+ amps or so on the welder it might be more than some of the relays liked seeing. Just never thought about it before.

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    We weld on our implements and the tractor itself, no need to unhook battery but if you wanna be safe go for it. The tractor is not grounded, the ground clamp is what grounds it. Electricity follows path of least resistance. Computers cause an issue because they cannot handle ANY surge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gone South View Post
    Either drop the implement or disconnect a battery terminal, you took more time typing out this post than you could have spent by doing both options. I usually unhook the battery terminal on my truck when I fixed some exhaust leaks, it ain't a big deal. As long as you don't weld on the bush hog and ground the welder on the alternator or something you really shouldn't have to worry.
    LOL... well, since I won't get a chance to do the work until 'maybe' this weekend, my typing isn't taking any time away from doing it.

    And, no, I wouldn't dream of clamping the ground to the alternator or something stupid like that. I've been around the block a time or two, but I can imagine that someone out there has probably done it before.

    Quote Originally Posted by swampshooter View Post
    We weld on our implements and the tractor itself, no need to unhook battery but if you wanna be safe go for it. The tractor is not grounded, the ground clamp is what grounds it. Electricity follows path of least resistance. Computers cause an issue because they cannot handle ANY surge.
    I usually set the ground clamp within a few feet of where I'm welding so as to minimize any 'meandering' of the current, but you just never know, I guess.

    Thanks for the verification, guys. I've had enough 'aw shit' projects this past year that I figured I'd better double check...

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    How do you make the little guy hitting is head on the brick wall?

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    Like this...

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    : banghead : only squeeze it all together.

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    Never mind you missed my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks View Post
    How do you make the little guy hitting is head on the brick wall?
    It's as easy as... 'Measure twice... cut three times...' ...
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    Unhook it. If you have a loose or poor ground connection you could cause stray current to go into the tractor, this stray current can cause damage to bearings and other parts as well as electrical systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tractor View Post
    Unhook it. If you have a loose or poor ground connection you could cause stray current to go into the tractor, this stray current can cause damage to bearings and other parts as well as electrical systems.
    Yeah, what the heck. I'll just block it up and disconnect and hope I don't have to reposition it. With my recent luck I'd somehow manage to trip as I'm welding and knock the ground clamp off the back of the bush hog with the arc still touching... ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tractor View Post
    Unhook it. If you have a loose or poor ground connection you could cause stray current to go into the tractor, this stray current can cause damage to bearings and other parts as well as electrical systems.
    ? really Ima call bull shit on this. Do you understand how electricity works? bearings? lmfao

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    Dude, current goes from your torch to the welding area straight to the ground. If you have a poor conection or ground, you just ain't gonna make any contact. If the ground falls off then the circuit "opens" and the arc just stops. It ain't rocket science much less science at all.

    And bearings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gone South View Post
    Dude, current goes from your torch to the welding area straight to the ground. If you have a poor conection or ground, you just ain't gonna make any contact. If the ground falls off then the circuit "opens" and the arc just stops. It ain't rocket science much less science at all.

    And bearings?

    Torch?


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